SiriusXM and “The Joe Madison Show” a chat with Spike Lee on health disparities and conspiracy theories surrounding Coronavirus in the African-American Community

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Audio clips with transcription and full interview courtesy  SiriusXM and “The Joe Madison Show” (weekdays from 6-10am on Urban View channel 126).

Spike Lee: You know, we’re going to get through this. And did you see, did you see our brother, Magic Johnson, last night on CNN?


Host, Joe Madison: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.


Spike Lee: Magic. I mean, Magic was so articulate and he, I mean, look, sometimes our people are messing up and there were several people in media saying that African Americans could not get [coronavirus].


Host, Joe Madison: Oh that was, that was all, that was a conspiracy all over the internet and I just — we even had people calling our show trying to try to push that and I just hung up. I just hung up.


Spike Lee: But I would just, I would — look, I know Magic said it last night, but I just want to piggyback on coattails of my brother. My African-American sisters and brothers: this stuff is real. If you look at the numbers, proportionately, we’re dying more than anybody, because this disease has pulled, you might say into the spotlight, how poor our healthcare is. How poor, you know,[even] when you’re healthy– I mean, African Americans, we over-index in hypertension, blood pressure, go on and on, and these are things that this disease, this virus, just thrives on.


Host, Joe Madison: Yeah. It’s opportunistic


Spike Lee: Healthcare, food deserts, fast food for breakfast, lunch and dinner. I really hope that the federal government, state governments and local governments really, really — they say they’re going to do it, but we’ll see — but this disparity in health is criminal.



Spike Lee Says “The Earth was Angry at Us”


Spike Lee: People are suffering all over the world, and you know what, Joe? There’s just some things that weren’t, I mean this has changed the game, changed the world. And so it’s like before Christ, since it’s Easter Friday, before Christ, after Christ, so Christ Corona, so the same initials.


Host, Joe Madison: Yup, yup. Yes, that’s true.

Spike Lee: Before Corona, after Corona. This is changing everything. And but you know why, the reason, I read an article about it. How pollution is clearing up. Skies are clear. Animals are coming out. I mean you know, the Earth was angry at us. People may think I’m crazy that I believe it in my heart and soul. That we had gone too far and Earth said, ‘hold up, we gotta change this,’ because we were killing this planet. And this time that everything was shut down, the Earth has come alive. Water is clear. I mean, it’s just like a scientist explains this now that, that would know why drive and all this stuff. And the other day I read in The New York Times, LA had the clearest air in the world. Los Angeles! There was one day last week they had the cleanest air in the world, LA.


Host, Joe Madison: Sherry is sitting here. Oh, by the way, is from LA, so you hear that, huh?


Sharon Madison: Yeah. Hey Spike. It is beautiful. I can fly into Los Angeles on a clear day. You can see the mountains, to the ocean and it’s beautiful. That’s just a very rare sight.


Spike Lee: And, but we got to stay inside though.


Sharon Madison: I hope you have some windows.


Spike Lee: I know I can’t stay in long, but I made a movie called “Do the Right Thing.” On the hottest day in the summer and I prayed to the almighty God this can’t be happening still in New York in July and August. I’m telling you. Eight and a half people, eight in a half million and we’re still inside in July and August. Oh my God. I don’t know how that’s going to work.


Spike Lee says Andrew Cuomo vs Trump “would be interesting”


Host, Joe Madison: First of all, are you, your wife, family, okay?


Spike Lee: We’re all good so thank you for asking. What about you my brother?


Host, Joe Madison: We’re locked in. I mean we’re staying at home, you know, I’m, saying what you said. I’m saying what Samuel Jackson said. I’m staying home, I’m staying in, I’m following the instructions and you know, I got to also say something. Man, you’re governor, Cuomo, he has been outstanding.


Spike Lee: Yes he has.


Host, Joe Madison: And he’s just as clear.


Spike Lee: I mean, he, if it wasn’t too late he could be P– I mean, he, he’s really, really been impressive. I’m proud that he’s my governor. And when you compare him with the other guy, it’s the difference between night and day. It’s really, it’s really, I mean, you know, I mean, you see what happens when pressure comes, some pipes break.


Host, Joe Madison: But you might as well just go ahead and say it on the Madison Show now. You can say it. If it wasn’t too late..


Spike Lee: Well I don’t call him by his name. I call him ‘Agent Orange’.


Host, Joe Madison: All right. Go ahead. Your governor, because you were about ready to say this. Your governor, Cuomo, if it wasn’t too late, he could run for President.


Spike Lee: He would be, you know, it would be interesting. Because people, CNN, you know, anytime he gives his morning briefing that’s going nationwide. So, people who had not even heard of Cuomo, are hearing him, and all over the world, and he’s just doing a great, great job. He’s getting to the point and he’s from New York City, he talks so much like a New Yorker. He’s all business, straight, no chaser.



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Diane Pernet

A LEGENDARY FIGURE IN FASHION and a pioneer of blogging, Diane is a respected journalist, critic, curator and talent-hunter based in Paris. During her prolific career, she designed her own successful brand in New York, costume designer, photographer, and filmmaker.